After the 1000 grit wet & dry paper taped to the stones;
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This is a shot of the actual edge angle this blade is going to get;
There is a small difference in bevel width between both sides of the blade, but i think that has got to do with these blades not being made with the use of CNC equipment.
These two pictures showcase the reason why i had to remove metal behind the actual edge.
The black lines show the beginning of the ramp from the hollow grind part to the full thickness of the blade , which as you can see is different on both sides of the blade.
Reprofiling to around 30 degrees inclusive with the Wicked Edge sharpener wouldn't have been possible without first removing quite a bit of metal in that region.
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Looks really nice and constant but why did you also sharpen the choil?
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The hollow grinding on both sides of the blade already starts to thicken before the heel of the edge is reached, so i had to remove metal there to accomodate for the diamond paddles to be able to reprofile the actual edge to 30 degrees inclusive, and i had to remove more metal in the back to even things out.
Otherwise the would have been a big gap.
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After the 800 grit wet & dry paper taped to the stones;
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After the 600 diamond grit stones;
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What does the black lines on the upper area of the blade means?
You'll put a false- or even an sharp edge one on top unless I'm very much mistaken ...?!All the best, Ben
Hi Ben,
The black lines you see on the upper area of the blade are the outlines of the Tormek knife clamp; because i had to remove quite a lot of very wear resistant S30V steel to reprofile the edge to a smaller inclusive angle i chose to use my Tormek T7 wet-sharpening machine for that job.
But because that clamp was designed for more narrow blades the reprofiling results would be uneven on the almost 5,0 mm thick Crusader Forge blade, that is why i had to turn the blade over inside the clamp after i finished reprofiling one side of the edge.
The black lines helped me to re-clamp the blade in the correct position.Currently i'm almost done with the 400 grit diamond stones;
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Currently busy with the 200 grit diamond stones;
@ Kanif: will post a picture of the framelock's cutout when i put the knife back together again,
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Close-up of the blade with an edge angle of about 50 degrees inclusive, the main reason why it doesn't cut too well.
Exploded view with Nylatron washers & a rather thin pivot pin for such a big folder;
I just finished reprofiling the edge on the Tormek T7 and the blade is now clamped in the Wicked Edge for finer sharpening & polishing.
The triple tempered S30V is noticeably more difficult to sharpen than the S30V from Strider, Spyderco & Chris Reeve, and it also behaves differently.
Normally this steel needs quite a lot of refinement steps with various grits to form a clean edge which can be used for cutting, but this stuff already forms quite a good edge after only gritsize 100.
As a comparison; after the same gritsize 100 the edge on my Strider SMF looks like somebody's broom when seen through a magnifying glass.More pics to follow.
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My latest, a Crusader Forge VF01 Flipper.
Specs:
Length open: 8.3 inch (21,1 cm)
Length closed: 4.9 inch (12,5 cm)
Blade length: 3.3 inch (8,5 cm)
Blade thickness: o.2 inch (4,9 mm)
Steel: triple tempered CPM-S30V
Hardness: 59-60 HRC
Handle material: 6AL4V Titanium
Weight: 265 gramsClip & review: http://www.edgeobserver.com/?cat=82
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This is the Hinderer XM-18 from a fellow forum member.
The request was to find a good balance between usefulness & esthetics; if possible to create a new edge that would cut well (with an edge angle fitting a strong tactical folder like the XM) while at the same time keeping the bevel width within limits.The edge was first reprofiled to an even 35 degrees inclusive with diamond stones 200, 400 & 600, and then refined with SiC wet & dry paper 800, 1000, 1500 and 2000 taped to the diamond stones.
The resulting edge was then somewhat polished with 6 micron diamond paste (a tiny dab of paste on the back of wet & dry paper which was then taped to the 600 grit stones) -
A few more pics;
The straight edge was reprofiled on a Wicked Edge sharpener to 30 degrees inclusive & polished up to 6 micron 3M diamond paste, while the slanted edge was done on a Tormek T7 to 45 degrees inclusive & polished up to 15 micron 3M diamond paste.
Both edges will treetop armhair, the straight edge will also whittle hair in some places.
Maybe in the future i'll try some finer polishing, but for now it's good,Some close-ups:
Difference between 15 micron and 6 micron;
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Originally the Strider DB is a compact sharpened prybar on which only the straight edge portion can cut a little, the slanted "edge" is blunt as a butter knife.
On my limited edition CPM-3V version however i decided to change it's definition into that of a compact sharp tool that can & will cut and still can be used as a sharpened prybar in an emergency.The straight edge was reprofiled to 30 degrees inclusive & the slanted edge to 45 degrees inclusive.
For now i finished the edges to 15 micron diamond paste as i want to find out how they hold up in use.
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CPM-3V wird sicher nicht schneller stumpf als CPM-S30V.
Neben das Strider DB in 3V habe ich auch ein K9 Dingo in 3V, gehärtet auf 60HRC von Paul Bos, und damit habe ich schon Erfahrung.
Mein Dingo habe ich eine gute Schneide gegeben mit mein Wicked Edge, und nach ein ganzen Mittag scheiden und hacken im Wald (zugegeben: nür grünes Holz) könnte ich noch immer die Haaren von meiner Handrucken rasieren. (gleich wie mit mein ScrapYard Scrapper 5 in SR101 (52100)
Mein Strider GB (auch gehärtet von Bos komplett mit seine Marke) womit ich das selbe getan habe könnte das sicher nicht, obwohl der noch immer scharf genug war um gut Holz zu schneiden.Der schwarze DB ist schon verkauft worden, der grüne bleibt bei mir.
Eines Tages werde ich auch dieses Messerchen nachschärfen & ändern von ein Pocketbrecheisen das auch ein bischen schneidet zu ein ziemlich gut schneideten Messer womit man in Not auch brechen kann. -
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Edit:Hallo kwakster.
Die Bilder sind/waren echt klasse.
Könntest Du bitte mit MonkeyEdge das Copyright abklären (das Logo war eindeutig auf den Foto's zu sehen) bevor es hier zu rechtlichen Problemen kommt.
Ansonsten einfach verlinken
Dank Dir für Deine Mühe :buds:
Oskar
TF-Team[/color]Oskar,
Monkey Edge wäre sicher froh wenn ihre DB Foto's auch auf dieses Forum zu sehen waren; um so mehr Strider Fans die Foto's sehen um so mehr Kunden die wahrscheinlich bekommen.
Denkst du nicht das entfernen von die Foto's sei ein bischen zuviel Burokratie ?
Auf Messerforum.net erwarte ich nichts anderes (deswegen laufen die Menschen dort auch weg), aber hier doch nicht ?Robert
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Monkey Edge hat auf USN ein Paar Foto's gemacht vons Messer das im YouTube clip misbraucht würde, neben ein identisches ungebrauchtes Exemplar.
Tekst vom Bericht:
"Here are the promised before and after pictures (well actually of a new CPM 3V knife vs. the abused one, cause I forgot to take before pics).
As you can see, it is obvious that the knife has been beat on, but structurally, no chips, no real dings.
A quick resharpen and this thing is ready to be in service.
The point is, that despite total abuse THE KNIFE DID NOT FAIL !"
Edit:Hallo kwakster.
Die Bilder sind/waren echt klasse.
Könntest Du bitte mit MonkeyEdge das Copyright abklären (das Logo war eindeutig auf den Foto's zu sehen) bevor es hier zu rechtlichen Problemen kommt.
Ansonsten einfach verlinken
Dank Dir für Deine Mühe :buds:
Oskar
TF-Team -
Jaaaaaa :crazy: meeeehr Zucker, ähm Messer
Hast du in den USA bestellt, oder gibts die auch bei uns.Meine kamen auch von Monkey Edge USA,
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Danke für die Vorstellung!
Sieht irgendwie sehr stylish aus.
Ist die Schrift tatsächlich goldfarben graviert ?
Sehr ungewöhnlich für hardcore tools.
Da weiß ich gar nicht ob ich das gut finde. :biggrin:Trotzdem auf jeden Fall :cool:
by the way
Geht mich ja nix an :phew: aber :Warum brauchst du denn zwei davon ?
Die Schrift ist grau/weiss, nicht gold. (Billigkamera)
Der Schwarze DB wird wahrscheinlich wieder verkauft, hier oder aufs Hollandische forum, -
Und, auch schon ein Haus damit abgerissen?
Wie liegt dieser Grifftyp in der Hand?
Beste Grüße
Gordon
Mir persönlich liegt dieser Grifftyp sehr gut in der hand, und die "Frag" Oberfläche ist absolut sicher & rutschfest.
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Gerade heute angekommen;
Specs:
Länge: 18,5 cm
Klingelänge (gemessen von anfang sharpening choil bis zum Punkt): 7,5 cm
Klingelänge (gemessen von Frag G10 Griff bis zum Punkt wie ein Polizist es wahrscheinlich tun würde: 10,0 cm
Stahl: CPM-3V
Coating: Schwarzer oxide
Klingdicke: 4,9 mm
Griffmaterial: G10 Frag Pattern
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Hi Lars,
I do have some experience with almost all the Hogue EX01 models, in fact i have a few for sale on the Dutch knife forum as well as here,
I'm not a dealer in the true sense of the word, but i do this because there is no representation of the Hogue knives in the Netherlands, don't know about Germany.In my opinion the Hogue EX01 series represents very good value for money as far as tactical folders are concerned; strong, lightweight and extremely well built.
The build quality is in fact exceptional, far better than for instance Emerson folders and comparable to old school Microtech quality, but for about half the price.
Each blade comes with a polished edge that is at least hairshaving sharp and in some cases even treetopping sharp.
The 154CM blades themselves have also undergone cryo treatment, something that most knives lack. (it will improve the edgeholding qualities of the steel)
The button locks are also very well done, with each moving part being selectively zone hardened so as to minimize wear, and each and every one knife that i have handled locks without any bladeplay.Here are a few pics of models i own or have owned;
Hogue EX01 Droppoint 3.5 inch G-Mascus;
Hogue EX01 Tanto 3.5 inch Aluminum;
Hogue EX01 Droppoint 4.0 inch G-Mascus;
Hogue EX01 Droppoint 4.0 inch Aluminum;
On YouTube there are a few clips where Allen Elishewitz (the designer of the Hogue knives) talks about his designs into detail:
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Highly recommended.